By 1987, the current standard of disassociation equaling disfellowshipping had already been in place for years, starting with Raymond Franz. She also continued association with him up until his death in 2009. News outlets also reported that there was a private JW ceremony for family apart from the public funeral. However it should be noted that the org says a JW funeral can only be conducted for an ex-JW if they were showing signs of returning, and then only of the conscience of the JW conducting it allowed, so obviously any such JW ceremony would be our of bounds organizationally, and refused if it were anyone else.
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Michael Jackson's mom on his disassociation
by neat blue dog infrom an interview with ebony magazine:.
in 1987, he left the jehovah's witnesses.
there was strong opposition to his "thriller" video on the part of some witnesses.
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Michael Jackson's mom on his disassociation
by neat blue dog infrom an interview with ebony magazine:.
in 1987, he left the jehovah's witnesses.
there was strong opposition to his "thriller" video on the part of some witnesses.
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neat blue dog
From an interview with Ebony magazine:
In 1987, he left the Jehovah's Witnesses. There was strong opposition to his "Thriller" video on the part of some Witnesses. Perhaps the controversy figured into his decision to leave. But I don't know that for a fact because I didn't talk to him about what he'd done. I couldn't. Witnesses do not discuss spiritual matters with a person who has disassociated himself from the Witnesses, including family members. But I want to stress that, contrary to published reports, I was not required to "shun" my son. Our relationship is as loving today as it was when he was a Witness. I just can't ask him, "Why, Michael?"
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The Left and Present Truth
by neat blue dog inadd yet another jw similarity to the list:.
they say now the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth is a matter of weeks.
things like the effectiveness of masks and the vaccine, the origin of covid-19 in a lab, clinton spying on trump, the existence of a pedophile ring for the elites and more, things branded as conspiracy theories have been proven true.
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Disillusioned JW:
I am a far left person who does not say (nor define) that "the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth is a matter of weeks". Where do you get the idea that all (or even most) people of the left say such or have such a definition?
No, of course the left would never admit to this. Like I said sometimes they pretend when a change happens it's always been that way. This line about weeks is something multiple conservatives have noted.
you non-left people seem to be exclusively using the word "elites" the way the former President Trump did in his televised statements at rallies. Did you folks obtain that specialized unflattering usage of the word "elite" from him?
No actually, president Eisenhower warned against this concentration of power decades ago, especially on the the military, scientific and technological front. Notice this speech, especially the second half where he mentions this "elite".
In many of the ideas you non-left wingers write about in your posts on this site it like you are living in a different world (an alternate reality Earth in a universe parallel to mine) than my world (my Earth).
Are you sure about that? I see and endless string of failed climate prophecies with obviously underhanded financial motives, and yet I'm told to believe that this time the world ending in 20 years will be true.
I'm told that we're in the middle of the deadliest virus in history and we must lock up, stunt the growth of an entire generation of children, and hand the government's of the world unprecedented emergency powers, and yet I see the death rates and true causes of death are no way near what's being implied.
I see multiple true stories like Covid being developed in a lab and a pedophile ring for elites including Clinton eventually come out as true but quietly swept under the rug by mainstream media.
I see reports that unarmed black people are being mowed down by racist cops, but then I see the details of most each and every case and see that they were fighting back, in the middle of crimes and in the case of George Floyd even ingested deadly levels of drugs.
I see BLM protests based on those lies making one of the most destructive summers with billions in damages and many deaths, yet I'm told it's a mostly peaceful protest.
Then I see single protest, not nationwide, where the protestors kill absolutely no one (although one of them was killed ironically) in an effort to get the government to investigate voter irregularities, and I'm told it was an insurrection and a deadly one at that (of course they conveniently don't say who died).
I could go on and on and on.
Maybe you're living in the alternate universe?
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The Left and Present Truth
by neat blue dog inadd yet another jw similarity to the list:.
they say now the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth is a matter of weeks.
things like the effectiveness of masks and the vaccine, the origin of covid-19 in a lab, clinton spying on trump, the existence of a pedophile ring for the elites and more, things branded as conspiracy theories have been proven true.
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neat blue dog
Add yet another JW similarity to the list:
They say now the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth is a matter of weeks. Things like the effectiveness of masks and the vaccine, the origin of COVID-19 in a lab, Clinton spying on Trump, the existence of a pedophile ring for the elites and more, things branded as conspiracy theories have been proven true.
Just like JWs who have set up an authoritarian central authority and outlaw anyone from "running ahead of the chariot", the ruling class backed by the left has decided that their present truth cannot be contradicted even for the sake of discussion and even if it comes out as true later. Multiple YouTube and Facebook users have spoken about their experiences being restricted for posting now verified facts about COVID, the Rittenhouse trial etc. - But those companies refused to reverse the restrictions after new facts came to light because it went against accepted truth at the time of posting.
And yet so many people are content to just be drip-fed and not have to think about it. Ask yourself: What crazy theory will quietly be acknowledged as true next, and just like the JWs, pretend it's been that way all along?
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Governing Body busy with building projects...looking beyond the ''last days''
by RULES & REGULATIONS inin addition to studio space, the planned ramapo-tuxedo complex would total 1.5 million square feet.
the complex would include offices, 600 housing units in multiple-family buildings, underground parking, a fitness area, and a visitor center for the public.. .
here is anthony morris in a jw broadcasting february 2022, reading a (fake) letter from a ''concerned brother.
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They've literally been using that "we'll use this building in the new system" line for decades.
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What's the deal with Cheese and Apple Danishes at conventions.
by pistolpete inthis was before my time, but there was this post that had 308 comments testifying that the best thing of being a jehovah witness back in the day was the convention's meals.
is this true?.
one quote out of 308;.
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neat blue dog
Yes I had the danishes and Shasta as well, they must've had a longstanding arrangement to buy them in bulk. It's the airplane peanuts phenomenon, i.e. the food itself isn't so great, but it is compared to the monotony of the situation.
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Spencer Larson JW singer - Psycho Chick
by neat blue dog inhere's another singer who's done a bunch of jw broadcasting original songs, and you'll probably recognize his face from the wt chorus (his voice is very recognizable i.e.
he sings through his nose terribly).
anyways check out this extremely cringe song of his, psycho chick:.
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"She's a looney girl, now every time she says 'whats up' it makes you want to hurl"
😵 You're right, must be the same lyricist for the original songs, utter crap
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Spencer Larson JW singer - Psycho Chick
by neat blue dog inhere's another singer who's done a bunch of jw broadcasting original songs, and you'll probably recognize his face from the wt chorus (his voice is very recognizable i.e.
he sings through his nose terribly).
anyways check out this extremely cringe song of his, psycho chick:.
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neat blue dog
Here's another singer who's done a bunch of JW Broadcasting original songs, and you'll probably recognize his face from the WT Chorus (his voice is very recognizable i.e. he sings through his nose terribly). Anyways check out this extremely cringe song of his, Psycho Chick:
https://music.apple.com/us/album/psycho-chick-single/546158083
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Bit cut from annual meeting
by neat blue dog indoes anyone have access to the leaked copy of the annual meeting?
because on part 2 (released as the feb. 2022 monthly program) there is a piece cut out at the 1:30:20 mark..
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Agreed they probably thought it would be offensive to their fans lol, and also undermine their position in the eyes of the R&F.
I find it offensive because no matter how many times you say 'we aren't your leader' and 'Jesus is the head', at the end of the day you cannot disagree with their current teachings lest you be ostracized, so all that humility crap means nothing in practice.
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Bit cut from annual meeting
by neat blue dog indoes anyone have access to the leaked copy of the annual meeting?
because on part 2 (released as the feb. 2022 monthly program) there is a piece cut out at the 1:30:20 mark..
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Found it. At about 3:41:00 in the full version, after he says that the anointed are not the leaders of JWs, he says
'we get letters from little children like we're something, (scoffing tone) "the governing body". . . (mocking tone) "you oughta write the governing body honey!" and they do, they draw pictures of us . . . but they mean well'